The Truth About The Warren County Dog Raid
Carlotta Cooper
Last week the property of Mrs. Wilma Jones in Warren County was raided by the Warren County Sheriff’s Department, working with the Animal Rescue Corps. They had a warrant and seized approximately 125 dogs and five birds. From the photos and video I’ve seen, the buildings where the animals were housed were in a run-down state, though the dogs themselves looked healthy. Since she possessed more than 19 intact female dogs apparently used for breeding, Mrs. Jones was required to have a state commercial breeder license, which she did not have. At this time, no charges have been filed against Mrs. Jones for anything. That includes animal cruelty, abuse, and neglect. A hearing is scheduled this week to determine what will become of the dogs. The Animal Rescue Corps wants to have custody of the dogs so they can distribute them to rescue groups and shelters, after having them spayed and neutered. The dogs would then be put up for “adoption,” or rather sold to people who want them as pets.
Those are the facts in this case, along with the important fact that the Animal Rescue Corps has estimated that they will spend up to $100,000 on this deployment and they have been asking for donations to cover their costs.
Are any of these facts in dispute? Oh, yes. Nearly all of them.
First of all, you might ask how a warrant was obtained so a raid could be executed on Mrs. Jones’s property. According to statements on the Warren County Humane Society Facebook page and in other news accounts, Ms. Kim Chambliss went undercover for three weeks, posing as a puppy buyer to gain access to Mrs. Jones’s property and meet with Mrs. Jones. Were her actions legal? Is any evidence she obtained admissible in court? That remains to be seen.
You might also ask why the Animal Rescue Corps, located in Washington DC, was brought into this case when there is a local humane society in Warren County. If there were legitimate reasons to think dogs were being abused or neglected in Warren County, why did the local humane society or animal control not take action? The Humane Society of the United States has also been active in Tennessee in the last 2-3 years. Why were they not contacted in this case? Or, if they were, why did they not choose to act?
The Animal Rescue Corps is, in fact, a new organization, but it is headed by someone who is well-known in rescue circles: Mr. Scotland Haisley. Unfortunately, Mr. Haisley is well-known for all the wrong reasons. His tactics have been described as “SWAT-team-like” when raiding dog breeders. He has previously worked for the Humane Society of the United States, the Animal Rescue League, and In Defense of Animals. Even Wayne Pacelle, President of HSUS, described Haisley’s methods as “cowboy ways” since Haisley likes to kick in doors and wear a phony badge on occasion. Haisley seized 172 dogs from a breeder in South Dakota that a judge later ordered HSUS to return to the breeder. The breeder got his dogs back and is now suing. Before that, Haisley led a raid in Hawaii on a man who was trying to care for animals left by his dead wife. The owner brought a civil rights lawsuit against HSUS, the Hawaiian Humane Society and others who were involved in the raid.
I don’t think anyone should be too certain that any raid led by Scotlund Haisley will be held up in a court of law.
It’s true that Mrs. Jones did not have a commercial breeder license. It certainly sounds as though she did need one. However, that is not grounds for a raid or seizure. The commercial breeder law has a process in place for inspection, and for a breeder to have a length of time to come in compliance with meeting the standards for inspection, and for getting the license. At some point Mrs. Jones should have been, or would have been notified that she needed a commercial breeder license. She would have been inspected. At that point she would have had a certain amount of time to comply with the regulations in the act, and a certain amount of time to get the license. Or she would have had to remove some of her dogs to be under the limit of the law. But the commercial breeder act does not allow outside agencies, such as the Animal Rescue Corps, or undercover people, to take action against breeders. The Department of Health and its inspectors are currently inspecting breeders and issuing licenses. It simply takes time to visit every breeder in the state. It is also up to breeders who know they need a commercial breeder license to contact the Department and obtain one.
If Mrs. Jones is charged with anything at all and she chooses to try to fight the charges, it would mean that she faces literally thousands of dollars in costs. Not least of her costs would be the seizure bond for her dogs. These charges would be between $10 and $18 per day, per animal, and the money is due by 15 days after the defendant has been charged, depending on where the animals were held. For 125 dogs, that would mean Mrs. Jones would have to come up with $18,750 by day 15 if she intends to fight any charges, if we use the lowest figure of $10 per dog, per day. And that is just for the first 15 days. The bill would continue to rise the longer she has to wait for any trial. That’s why most dog breeders surrender their dogs, even if they fight the charges. Seizure bonds make it too costly to try to keep the animals, even when people are innocent. Coming on top of legal fees, few people can afford to pay these costs. Forfeiture and asset seizure bonds, which were changed in recent years to prosecute drug cases, have been used maliciously to force breeders to give up their animals.
It needs to be said here that Mrs. Jones is 72 years old (though different stories have put her age at 74 and at 80). She appears to live alone and have no family. She says she’s been breeding dogs for 30 years and that she loves her dogs very much. There’s really no reason to doubt her statements. Animal rescue volunteers may not like or approve of the way that Mrs. Jones keeps her dogs, and they may not like dog breeding in general, but it is possible to have different views of things. Commercial dog breeding is a legal activity. Mrs. Jones was breeding dogs, not running a meth lab. The buildings may have been unsightly but the dogs appeared to be in good condition. State law requires animals to have adequate food, water, and shelter and Mrs. Jones appears to have met those standards.
Finally, there is a larger issue at play here. That is the battle that is going on between those who see dogs as almost human pets and those who still see them as dogs, with a purpose. Animal rescuers often have very good motives. They would like to save every animal from anything they judge to be a harsh life. That includes being treated too much like a dog and from breeding situations. Dog breeders may love their dogs but they can also see that they have a utilitarian purpose. The present generation of dogs is needed to produce the next generation. Both groups like to place dogs in good homes. Dog breeders have been doing this for a very long time. In the last couple of decades, animal rescuers have been vying for those same pet homes with rescued animals, moving in on homes that once would have bought pets from breeders. In addition, animal rescuers have mounted a war against dog breeders by trying to convince the public that most pets come from substandard breeders, and telling people that they should “adopt, not shop.” There are plenty of great dogs that come from both sources. It’s unfortunate that this situation has turned into a war. In this case, Mrs. Jones may be one of its victims.
Too often lately, dogs are seized from breeders on phony or exaggerated charges (or no charges at all). When the breeder surrenders them because they can’t afford the exorbitant seizure bonds, the rescue group distributes the dogs to various shelters and rescues who turn around and sell the same dogs who were said to be in such terrible condition. In just a few days these allegedly “pitiful” dogs are somehow ready to be sold to the public, often for the same kind of prices the breeder would have charged. Miraculously, all of the alleged health problems are gone. The neglect is cured. Starving dogs are suddenly plump. It’s like magic how fast these pathetic dogs are suddenly ready to be “adopted” for a few hundred dollars when the money is going to a rescue group instead of to a breeder. And dogs that a few days before were said to have never known any human kindness are suddenly giving kisses and ready to play. Yeah, right. I’ve been breeding and showing dogs for almost 30 years and I can tell you that it takes a very long time to socialize an unsocialized dog. If a dog has really not had any social interaction, you can’t cure it in a week. In other words, the stories that are often told about dogs taken from breeders being “unsocialized” are bunk. The dogs are usually just scared when they are seized by strangers. Who wouldn’t be? If animal rescuers don’t know this, they don’t know much about dogs. If they do know it, and they mislead the press, then they are simply lying.
The bottomline, in more ways than one, is that rescues and shelters make money when dogs are seized from a breeder. There’s a reason why breeders refer to these raids as “stealing” dogs. Rescues and shelters turn around and sell the same dogs that breeders were selling, and can sell them for several hundred dollars per dog. The only difference from buying them from a breeder is that they are spayed/neutered, and people can feel morally superior about getting a “rescued” dog that probably didn’t need to be rescued from anything.
It’s also unfortunate that there are rescue groups who prey on the public’s generosity to push their own agenda. I think it’s very doubtful that it will actually take $100,000 to provide care for the dogs that were seized on Mrs. Jones’s property. Of course, the Animal Rescue Corps isn’t the only group that asks for money from the public. HSUS, PETA, the ASPCA, and other animal rights groups have their hand out all the time, using sad pictures of animals to try to motivate the public into giving them money. The problem is, the money is rarely used to actually help animals. Instead, it goes to lobbying, pension plans, and big salaries. Helping animals in need is a great thing to do. It’s too bad that’s not where your money goes. Instead of donating to a group with a headquarters in Washington DC, give your money to a local shelter or rescue. That’s the only way to really make sure you are helping animals that need it.
Thank you. You have described these raids just as they happen, often illegally, always immorally.
ReplyDeleteGiven that this Animal Rescue organization is headed up by the infamous Haisley, I'm sure we'll see them again. I don't understand how these organizations are permitted to act with no legal authorization at all. If you or I did this, we'd be behind bars in a jiffy, and it wouldn't be easy for us to get out, either.
Thank you for such an accurate account of the way these things happen. I'll post your blog to my FB feed, and ask others to share widely.
Small horse breeders are getting the same treatment now, and with the same outcomes - 'emaciated' horses miraculously recovered within a few weeks to be sold; pregnant mares 'miraculously' foaling healthy foals in the same time frame. Just about enugh time for the owners to realize they have no hope of paying the bills, much less recovering their stock.
Somehow we really have to put a stop to this.
Even a bigger shame then the money going to pensions, lobbying and over-inflated salaries is the businesses that donate time, money, and products and rescues that get left holding the bag when donations for specific animals do not follow the animal.
ReplyDeleteSounds like a new non-profit that will bilk the system. Would the actions of this new AR non-profit be punishable under the AETA?
Thank-god, Some one with actuall knowledge! I know this woman first hand,Did you know that ELAINE HENDREIX the actress was here at this raid also? She stared in such films as parent trap and her latest GOOD INTENTIONS with leann rhimes? Yeah you should really look at her facebook page also? HUMM ,you think she needs more publicity? And him ughhh, Yeah we live in Tenn. Go ahead make fun at people you really dont know,They sure have thrown many stones at this woman. I say KARMA> YEAH, I begged these people to let me set with her so I could make sure she knew what was going on they said I would be arrested if I crossed this line. She does not have any sisters, brothers, mother died years ago her father passes when she was 3 or 4 ? could you please contact me. I am the little girl Joyce keener that she helped raised, I would love to ask you some questions.she goes to court tomarrow I can't find a number I only see your name Carlotta cooper, Thank-you you,ve eased my heart somewhat. Joyce Keener hickorycreek@bloamnd.net
ReplyDeleteI'm just curious as to who runs this blog? Who writes for it? Most blogs that I know are very open about who they are. Why can I not find out who is the "owner" of this blog?
ReplyDeleteThere were seven dead dogs on the property, of which two were in a cage with live dogs. "From the photos and video I’ve seen, the buildings where the animals were housed were in a run-down state, though the dogs themselves looked healthy." you state. Do dead dogs look healthy to you? Do dogs that are so matted that they are matted to the cages look healthy to you? Do urine burns on dogs paws, healthy to you? Some of those dogs were flea ridden, had many ticks, kennel cough, mange, dehydrated, so hungry they were eating their own feces, and the list goes on. This is not healthy. This is not loving your animals.
ReplyDeleteWhat? Didn't like my post????? Hiding the real Truth???
ReplyDeleteDon't make your blog public if you aren't going to be an adult and post comments. You may address them and correct any falsehood. Just be an adult about it.
ReplyDeleteSorry folks. I don't check this blog every day for comments. But I don't mind posting them. My name, Carlotta Cooper, is all over this blog. It is not my personal blog. It is the news blog for the Tennessee Pet-Law group and we post things from other writers as well, as long as they are opposed to animal rights and relate to animals and the law in Tennessee. I'm not going to put up abusive comments so don't expect to see them appear.
ReplyDeleteAs for the condition of the dogs that were taken, I've seen the photos and I've watched the videos. I stand by what I wrote. How do we know that any dead dogs found on the property were not planted there during the raid? Your "undercover" person had three weeks to plant things. Or perhaps they were puppies that died during delivery? The original story said there was a dog with two dead ones in the same cage. Then the number magically grew to seven dead dogs. I guess two didn't sound bad enough. And where are these dogs getting ticks in Tennessee in March after a very cold winter? No ticks anywhere I know right now. Same with fleas.
So, basically, I don't believe a lot of the claims made by the people who took the dogs. After reading the things on your Facebook page about going undercover and calling in phoney abuse claims on Mrs. Jones, I don't think you have much credibility. And Scotlund Haisley is already being sued in at least two cases for illegally taking dogs from breeders. This case really stinks.
Oh, and one more thing. I'm not the one who is posting as "Anonymous."
ReplyDeleteRe Spcldy, I doubt that raids like these meet the standard for the AETA. At least not currently. These raids are currently being carried out by twisting the law. This raid had the Warren County Sheriff's Department along. I don't think AETA could be invoked until public opinion changes and people start to see these raids for what they really are: theft, coercion, and, yes, terrorism. But that's not where we are now. That's just my take on it. Maybe somebody else knows more about AETA and how it could be used.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous... why don't you and all your cronies creep back into the woodwork, you will never get monies to run a shelter again and oops, is ARC paying you??? ..betcha that's it.... and to pick on someone that old? Karma will get the lot of you....
ReplyDeleteReally? you think someone "planted" dead dogs on the property? Really? Come'on!
ReplyDeleteThe Warren County DA was in charge of this raid NOT ARC. ARC assisted. Proof is on the ARC video of the raid.
I'm not an ARC employee. Just a regular dog lover.
You all know that if owner of those dogs was a man of 35-40 with tattoos, a beard and bow-legged the DA would've gone after him and he'd be sitting in jail right 'bout now. But since the owner was a 73 year old woman...well, who really wants to put a 73 year old woman in jail. No one.
ReplyDeleteUh, yes. This wouldn't be the first time that dead dogs have been planted during a raid on a breeder. It's been caught on tape before.
ReplyDeleteOh, I see. Now "ARC assisted." How come it was ARC putting out the press releases and ARC asking for donations? But now that questions are being raised about Scotlund Haisley, you're saying that ARC only "assisted"? Did Haisley get to kick in any doors this time? How much money did ARC make off this raid?
It really shouldn't matter what someone looks like, or how old they are. You know, instead of spending three weeks trying to gather evidence about a 72-year-old woman and her dogs, if the animal lovers in Warren County really cared about Mrs. Jones's dogs, maybe they could have spent that time trying to help her out instead of spying on her.
Didn't ARC present a bill for $100,000 in court, and that's why Mrs. Jones had to surrender her ownership of her dogs because she couldn't pay that bill? That's an awful lot of "assistance." I would really love to see that bill itemized. How much is that per dog? With 117 dogs, that's about $855 per dog. Did ARC really spend that much on each dog?
ReplyDeleteAnd it would be good to see an accounting of all the cash donations ARC received, as well as goods and services donated. I bet the Warren County HS has been getting donations due to this raid, too. Jackpot.
Thanks for sharing your knowlege. Its sad but it really happends how you described in post. Hope this could end somewhen! thanks again.. nd really nice post!
ReplyDeleteI adopted one of these Warren County dogs. He had sarcoptic mange and no hair on 1/3 of his body. His tail was completely hairless and looked like a scabby rat's tail. Was the mange somehow planted? Both of his "hutch mates" (because they lived in crappy rundown rabbit hutches) also had very bad mange. I don't know if you've seen the pictures of the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels from that mill - but those are the ones with mange. He also had severe infections in both of his ears and had to have 8 of his teeth pulled because of decay.
ReplyDeleteIt was very good of you to adopt a dog that needed veterinary care. I hope the dog is doing well now. None of that changes the fact that Mrs. Jones was targeted by the local rescue people when they could have tried to help her with the dogs. I think it's very sad that animal people in Tennessee seem to be targeting the elderly and people who don't have the resources to defend themselves. I love animals, but I also care about people and I would hate to think that someday, when I get old, someone might come and try to take my animals away from me because I can't defend myself any more.
ReplyDeleteThe seizure bond law was ruled to be unconstitutional in Louisville KC v Metro Louisville in that it requires giving up the dogs before any finding of guilt. That ought to be the first legal action taken.
ReplyDeleteI'm very interested in this subject and have come to believe, due to personal experience, that these raids are often based on false accusations. I was raided by a group who entered my home under false pretenses and on a false "anonymous" tip. It didn't matter that they found a clean house full of healthy, happy dogs. They made every effort to browbeat me into surrendering the. I was fortunate to have my veterinarian on my side, and an astute police sergeant present who called on the raiders to back off. I didn't lose any of my dogs, but my confidence in the US constitution is badly shaken.
ReplyDeleteHaisley's at it again.Twisting the morality and sheer grain of out constitution. He back in tennessee destroying people. I just don't understand why the FBI hasn't stopped him. People don't understand that this thug is making 6 to 7 figures. He goes under so called nonprofit. Well as long as there's no money left on December 31. That's nonprofit. They put up the, please donate with the sad pictures and get grants that we pay for. How can our government even begin to let this happen. If tbere is a problem. Then help the person. Instead he destroys them for a paycheck. Be the way. I would really like to know what happened to Haisley when he was caught killing dogs and throughing them in a dumpster. That just sort of disappeared.
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